," that will be at 8:00. stay with us. a lot more news, coming up. >>> i'm wolf blitzer in aspen, colorado. this week, some of the world's top experts on fighting terrorism gathered here in colorado for the aspen institute security form. i had a chance to conduct the first-ever public in-depth interview with the u.s. navy admiral who planned and executed the raid that killed osama bin laden. our discussion was extraordinary, candid, and at times even funny. we're going to play part of it throughout the hour. admiral william mccraven may not be a household name, but as you're about to see, he's a genuine u.s. hero. we always think of, in recent years, of course, at least in the past year, with admiral m mccraven, as the orchestrater, the architect of the raid that killed osama bin laden. and you know, we've all read a lot about it. i know peter bergen is here, he's written a whole book about it, an excellent book about it. but this is the guy who's sitting right here, who had the guts to tell the commander in chief, we should do it, let's do it, and when you ordered that raid, and when you said, you t